Article taken from the Daily Post by Eryl Jones-Williams
The name of the mountain has sparked controversy during talks over some signs set to be erected in the Snowdonia National Park
The name of a North Wales mountain has sparked controversy at the Snowdonia National Park’s planning meeting today.
Natural Resources Wales had submitted an application for signs near the Dol Idris Car Park at Minffordd, near Talyllyn.
The wording on one of the signs showed directions to ‘Cadair’ Idris.
The Dol Idris car park is a recognised route to the mountain from the south side of the second highest and poller mountains in Wales.
But Cllr Dyfrig Siencyn, Dolgellau asked: “Who changed the name from Cader Idris to Cadair Idris?
“It was probably some academic somewhere without any knowledge of the history of the name.
“It has always been Cader Idris to me.”
He was supported by the chairman of the planning committee Cllr John Pugh Roberts, Dinas Mawddwy and Cllr Elwyn Edwards, Bala.
Cllr Edwards is a campaigner for keeping original Welsh names and said that historic documents showed that the name was Cader Idris.
The committee was told that the former Countryside Commission for Wales had changed the name to Cadair Idris after consultation with the Welsh Language Commissioner.
This has meant that Cadair Idris is now used on all official documents.
But the committee argued that there had not been any local consultation on the change of name.
Cllr Tom Ellis, Trawsfynydd , formerly from Dolgellau said that the name Cader Idris was the original name.
“I think that we should approve the signs but that they change the name back to Cader Idris, “ he said.
The Park’s legal officer reminded the committee that they should decide on the application as it stood or refused it.
Cllr Edwards said that he had checked old maps and it was always Cader Idris.
The committee finally agreed to approve the signs, but for officers to hold further talks with the applicants regarding the whether Cader or Cadair Idris should be used.
Approval was granted for 9 signs in and around the Dol Idris car park near Minffordd, Talyllyn.
Paul Williams, Senior Reserve Manager for Cadair Idris National Nature Reserve, Natural Resources Wales said: “The spelling we’re using on the signs is Cadair Idris.
“NRW has not changed the spelling of the name. We use this spelling following advice we received from the Welsh Language Commissioner and Canolfan Bedwyr at Bangor University for the correct spelling to use.
“Although the form of ‘Cader’ reflects local pronunciation and it is important to consider local custom, the mountain is well known to the whole of Wales, which is the basis of our decision to use a standard spelling.”
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